Emdeeh Profile 12:53:46
So, who has seen 1974 already? I have and I love it!
Emdeeh Profile 13:00:47
Hey there's the man! Hello Billy!!!!
thanks for being here and a special thx to Susan for hosting
Cool. Backstage footage, performance footage, etc??
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what shall we talk about ... ?
Please tell us about your new DVD Billy. I've been out of the loop= p>
Lee Roy Profile 13:01:43
howdy, Billy <= o:p>
Susan Profile 13:01:58
Hello EPN and everyone else, and welcome!
There's a few other chatters I'd thought would make it
First of all, thanks so much for sharing this with us all! Fantastic film!<= /span>
When was the DVD released?
d Profile 13:02:21
Hello all... Billy thanks so much for doing this...
vintage b & w footage of 1974 tour April & May (a few days worth) <= /span>
released 12 / 19 / 09
sun<= /b> joined the chat at 13:02:42
Nice. Is there performance footage included?
Susan Profile 13:02:47
It's my pleasure, Billy. Thanks, too, to Andrew, for facilitating all the registrations.
Emdeeh Profile 13:02:50
12/19. Wow! I am out of the loop!...Hi Sun! Long time no see!
also has great color footage I shot along the way plus wonderful color phot= os
d Profile 13:03:12
Billy, to your recollection , what was the Concert song line up for that to= ur?
is the footage a combo of 16 mm and 8 mm?
interviews with original band members Carter, Munoz, etc .
I forget..was this the time of the ENDLESS SUMMER release?.
Emdeeh Profile 13:04:01
Lots of Carl lead vocals :-)
When did you "discover" that you still had this great footage? = span>
b & w footage from '74 is on videotape / additional 8mm or super 8mm
Oh man, now I have to get this DVD. This sounds like a wonderful documentat= ion from someone actually there
Susan Profile 13:04:26
This was a film school project, yes?
video tape footage is a nice find to include. :)
Emdeeh Profile 13:05:13
Does someone have a link to a press release with details and track listings= ?
Ahhh Emdeeh, nice period!
Opening song: "WIBN" - but unable to secure licensing for this one ... successful with "LPR" "Trader" and "Marcella&q= uot; (segments only in film). I forget actual setlist - sorry
d Profile 13:06:02
I've seen lineup lists in the Badman book.. Just wondering what the "unusual" if any surprise songs were stuck in.
Emdeeh Profile 13:06:19
link is www.billyhinsche.com/1974
Billy are there any acetates or early mixes of recordings you've worked on = with the Beach Boys that you hope one day might see a release on a future rariti= es collection?
UCLA film project I convinced my professor to allow me to do on Beach Boys = as a documentary so I could fulfill duties as band member ...
I sang original lead on "Honkin' " but it will probably never be released, at least not as part of a BB CD - there are bootlegs out there ..= .
d Profile 13:08:06
What I love about this DVD is that it's kind of like finding an undeveloped= OLD roll of film that when you see it it's kind of like missing piece of the puzzle... It was SO!! cool to see film from that period. It seems very rare= in the officially released projects so far.
Just looked at the link at Billy's site. Gotta get it this week!
the professor didn't "get it" and was nonplussed - I might have received a "B" but certainly not an "A"
wow! thanks for the great little review Rand...you folks are pumping me up = to acquire this asap
Susan Profile 13:09:29
What made you decide it was time to revisit the project, Billy?
project was only in "raw footage" form and never edited together until now ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:09:42
I like getting to see the actual itineraries, one of the shows on that tour= was in Atlanta, but I didn't realize they went straight to a show in Auburn, AL right after the Atlanta one!
I enjoyed the present day interviews with the guys still around remembering those days
Yeah the professor didn't get it is obvious! Based on comments on your site, this is an A+
Emdeeh Profile 13:10:34
And the Dennis footage is priceless -- what a scoundrel!
35th Anniversary of the 1974 tour was a motivator, but I realized also that= all I had to do was DO IT ! But it was easier said than done. Also VERY expensi= ve to have transfers, etc. done ...
d Profile 13:11:04
funny what you can do when you're young Emdeeh :)
But well worth it in the end. More should be aware of this awesome sounding documentary!!
I'm just a regular pack rat aren't I, Emdeeh ?
Susan Profile 13:12:03
And how much of it has been released in other form? I know some of this foo= tage saw the light in the One In A Million video...anything else?
Did you remember having this footage all along? Over all these years?
Aren't you glad I save everything (itineraries, etc.) ?
Emdeeh Profile 13:12:19
I'm a pack rat too, but you're a lot better organized!
Billy I’m happy for you and wish you great success with this DVD. I k= now I'll be purchasing it this week and read a portion of the sales goes to the Carl Wilson Foundation
This DVD looks like a perfect compliment to the Beach Boys AMERICAN BAND and ENDLESS HARMONY DVD documentaries.
Had to learn by the practical application - yes. Just start videotaping stu= ff. You just aimed, and pulled the trigger on the Portapak camera. Google it- y= ou can see what they looked like ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:13:50
One of the nicest things about this feature is getting to see the guy's personalities.
They were big and heavy weren't they?
Emdeeh Profile 13:14:13
There are some moments in there that are pure Carl, for example.
yeah not the stage/interview personas
I never "lost" the footage - I just never really thought about it until I literally uncovered / discovered it in a big box of film-related st= uff in my garage back in 2002, roughly ...
Geez I don't know how I missed this release
being the footage wasn't in a true film/video archive, I'm amazed the foota= ge survived intact and seemingly in great condition
Everyone always seemed to laid back....was that always the case on tour? = span>
d Profile 13:16:09
the music sounds great for a small or condenser mic. Did you have to tweak = that much?
I went to NYU Film School. I wished I could have made a project like THIS! = LOL
It is a very intimate look at everyone in a very candid, unaffected way. Af= ter all, it was just me behind the camera and everyone knew I was doing a speci= al project ... not paparazzi-style !
unfortunately I’m not in a band
d Profile 13:16:48
Dennis asking Mike about Van Dyke is priceless!
Billy this DVD should get the widest exposure possible!
I played with audio (like turning it way up) but found that the best was ju= st to leave it at the original recording level - it was all "automatically adjusted” at the time
Any reaction/comments from the families of Dennis or Carl?
Wish I could stay :( Will have to catch up on transcript when posted. Sunday errands to do and a daughter who's a senior in high school that NEEDS the computer for homework now...waahh!
Susan Profile 13:18:34
This is priority for me to purchase. Thanks for coming here Billy and talki= ng about this new DVD. It's immensely appreciated!. Sorry I have to go...wahha= a!
bye for now EPN
Emdeeh Profile 13:19:26
Bye!!! Good luck with future endeavors/projects!!!
It's cool of you to come here Billy. Not many give us this chance to ask questions directly...you're the best! Bye!!
Plane was actually pretty basic compared to future jets we chartered but ni= ce for what it was ...
Carole Wilson "loved it" though it made her happy / sad, etc ...<= /span>
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Emdeeh Profile 13:21:29
One of the things about seeing the traveling segments was that it reminded = me of how laid-back air travel used to be. You could actually go greet folks at the gate then.
Have the children of Dennis and Carl seen it to your knowledge?
Rand Richard Profile 13:21:50
was the great "match" solely something that came about while drin= king :) or was it a LETS see what we can do to have fun with the camera?<= /p>
Music written after a conversation with Graham Nash (long story) back in '0= 2 - '03 .... JHP did such a great version that I *had * to include it ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:23:45
Any reaction from the Jardines?
Rand Richard Profile 13:23:48
this is "off topic" but One more Night Alone is one of my favouri= te songs of all time. Is there a story behind the lyrics?
Rand: just a fun project that took quite a few hours to complete ...=
It was very refreshing to see that not all backstage was as crazy and wild = as some seem to think.....all were very "normal" nice people....Denn= is was the wild drunk that some see to think he was.
Dennis was NOT the wild drunk
Rand: yes - another song about "love unrequited" after a breakup = with a gal ...
jukka Profile 13:24:59
Is this a US only release? Or is there a version watchable on European syst= ems?
Emdeeh Profile 13:25:25
Dennis was a fun-loving guy - I think it's plain to see here ...
Andrew Profile 13:26:04
That's a universal region, isn't it?
Billy, that's what I was trying to say...thanks!
Emdeeh Profile 13:27:20
My understanding is that Region 0 is universal, yes.
Fave parts include when Dennis tells "the guys from the South that he'= ll return to the game after they start playing fair" - I call it a "Hawthorne moment"
That look on your face at the end of the film, still gets me.......you were definitely remembering the good times......
Also, Carl wagging his finger at me at "Breakfast scene" ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:28:36
That's a classic Carl moment....
That actually made me sad to see it for the first time ...
Rand Richard Profile 13:29:09
I was very touched by that moment too Donna... very heartfelt!
(in response to Donna)
Dennis revving car engine of rental car is “PRICELESS" !<= /p>
Rand Richard Profile 13:30:40
I only got to meet Carl one time and he was so busy directing everyt= hing we really didn't get much of a chance to talk... just a hi this is Carl Wilson... (made possible by the CBS Cinti guy) but I'll never forget it
The conversation that Dennis was having on the plane with Al (?), was very = insightful as well.
Emdeeh Profile 13:30:11
I thought that last moment was very fitting.
jukka Profile 13:30:40
Great for Region 0! I'm in Finland and typing on a crappy (i.e. Swedish) ce= ll phone. Can't answer PM's Rand:-(
with Al, yes
Emdeeh Profile 13:30:50
The philosophical discussion with Dennis and Al? Yes, that was very insight= ful.
Susan Profile 13:30:57
Billy, did you use everything you had for this, or is there still some foot= age that you have "in reserve?"
Carl quote was from "Patio scene” in New Orleans hotel garden - = he was actually referring to the fact that the mic was incorporated into the camera ...
Rand Richard Profile 13:32:16
seeing concert footage from that time would be such a treat!!!!!!!= p>
EST and TM
Rand Richard Profile 13:32:42
more footage I should say
Some footage ended up on "the cutting room floor" yes - I still h= ave a few more raw footage reels that I haven't even transferred or viewed at a= ll - from roughly the same era ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:33:55
I liked "meeting" the behind the scenes people too.
Rand Richard Profile 13:34:18
Billy what do you see as the biggest misconceptions about the Beach Boys? I= .E. how they're perceived by the masses.
I still have some color concert footage (film) but no audio to match ...
Do you have any plans for a second film based on the good response of this = one?
I know I don't think that the tours were all drinking, drugs, and women aft= er seeing this, and I appreciate that.
Will finish a project I started on Carl - already have 20 interviews "= in the can" ...
That is going to be great Billy!!!
Emdeeh Profile 13:37:35
Companion piece to Dennis Wilson Forever?
Rand Richard Profile= 13:37:39
There’s an audio on You Tube of “Here = She Comes.” That song Kicks ass!!!! I would love to hear all the Reprise stuff live!!!!
Re the Carl project, great news! When do you think you will be ready to release?
CW film will have more color footage and will include some "home movies" ...
at least 6 months from completion ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:39:38
Any chance of hearing some Carl music too?
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Hi! Back...had to turn around...freezing rain and roads are noticeably icy<= /span>
Has doing this film stirred up your interest in doing more films now?
Emdeeh Profile 13:40:39
Welcome back, EPN
I already have some young people I teach music to and they are whom I mentor right now ...
I will use CW music - as much as I can ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:41:25
welcome back EPN
what's seemingly great about this DVD is it documents an era that sometimes gets a bit glossed over in Beach Boys history...like the ENDLESS HARMONY/AMERICAN BAND seem to focus more time on the Capitol era
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glad to be back!!! roads not worth driving on at the moment
Emdeeh Profile 13:42:43
Rand Richard Profile 13:43:07
I recorded I wish for you always in my home studio. Hard to sing that song w/o crying though
Any insight you may divulge in regards to any Beach Boys 50th anniversary celebrations?
Yes - I find that, in a sense, I am keeping CW and DW "alive" in a special way ...
Most of the other docs seem to focus too much on the bad times in their history.....this film is so refreshing.
god bless you billy
Emdeeh Profile 13:43:54
"I Wish for You Always" -- very moving song...
Susan Profile 13:44:02
Hello esq - David Beard, i presume?
Emdeeh Profile 13:44:13
Thank you, Billy
Rand Richard Profile 13:44:44
I remember hearing talk during the 25 anniv. year that the band was going to do a show that included all eras of music with all former members = of the band... was that just silly rumor or did it just never happen?
You've met your goal of keeping them alive in a really nice way.
Well, by the time the 50th rolls around, at least I'll be able to show all = of you some more cool footage ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:45:15
are the beach boys planning anything special for the 50th that you're aware= of? Any sort of reunion ?
never happened / I never heard of it
Andrew Profile 13:45:53
Any insight into what we might expect from the band for the 50th anniversary -shows or records?
no plans I am aware of ...
sorry - being honest ...
Rand Richard Profile 13:46:22
do copyrights etc expire at 50yrs?
Any archival projects from your earlier group with Desi Jr?
Emdeeh Profile 13:47:02
There are options to renew copyrights
Rand Richard Profile 13:47:23
Cinti seems to get glossed over all the time :(
but if the copyrights pass, then they become pd...right?
dunno' re: copyrights
David Beard. Hi! Hey are you the one that has the early copy of the T.A.M.I show that was posted about on the Smiley Smile message board??
Emdeeh Profile 13:48:11
copyright info is on US Library of Congress website
no plans for East Coast yet ...
Emdeeh that's too much effort for us LOL
Emdeeh Profile 13:48:38
Rand Richard Profile 13:48:42
was wondering then what you meant by Well, by the time the 50th rolls around, at least I'll be able to show all of you some more cool footage ... then just will be ready by then?
Billy… What stands out in your mind today about that tour from the perspective of playing on stage with the guys?
I'm just saying that I will continue to be active regardless of what the BBs are planning ...
Billy, any archival releases planned from you work with Desi Jr?
Yes… I have the T.A.M.I. Show screener, but let's stay focused on Bil= ly.
Billy, you don't have any legal ties to the BB anymore do you?
What a truly great band it was - multi-instrumental, extraordinarily talent= ed guys like Carter, Munoz, Fataar, etc ...
esq yes we will..just was confirming you're the same person ;)
The band was at a peak then
Also, that Carl was moving over to play his songs on Wurlitzer electric pia= no ... like I said: Great band
all individually writing songs and producing.
Meaning, you don't have to pre-screen anything thru them do you?
Rand Richard Profile 13:52:25
wondering if you could be Musical director (for one show) What songs would = you like to rehearse and perform that aren’t already in the normal rotati= on.
good question Rand
Someone asked me about a song that DW and DD&B collaborated on called "Away" - I have the acetates but it's never been released. It mig= ht be a part of some DW project down the line ...
Emdeeh Profile 13:53:53
I make sure BRI is aware of all my projects
do you still have contact with brian, mike and al?
does BRI make things tough to clear for usage such as on this project?
"All This Is That" was always hypnotic for me to play - that woul= d be a cool song to include ...
Rand Richard Profile 13:55:31
I would love to hear Dennis' recording of “Wouldn't It Be Nice= to Live again" Evie Sands version with Marslands Chaos band is great... b= ut I still want to hear Dennis' voice there. Did you see the LONG PROMISED ROAD = tour Adam did.. It was stellar!
the backstory of the group changing their song lineup, Endless Summer's release… a lot of interesting elements of the group dynamic and band talent, etc.
I stay in touch with everyone
Rand Richard Profile 13:56:45
I LOVE the keyboard rhythms in “All This is That.”!
Who has the rights/ copy of that Dennis song?
For my money, "All This Is That" is as good (and important) with = its TM message as the Beatles "Across The Universe"
I saw Adam when he first debuted his "Songs of Carl & Dennis Show" - it was at a club on Lincoln near Marina Del Rey ...
Susan Profile 13:57:31
Also a stunning Carl vocal [ATIT].
“All This Is That” is highly underrated!
"GDTM" was an early CW lead, yes
Warner Chappell has DW's stuff
Emdeeh Profile 13:57:54
"All This Is That" is just plain beautiful, imho, especially Carl= 's vocals on the fade -- shivers down the spine time.
Rand Richard Profile 13:58:12
A lot of love and respect really seemed to go into that tour and recording.=
Billy, share with us specific memory of working with Carl on a recording.= p>
That period from after Capitol thru LOVE YOU is one of the most fertile and creative for EVERYONE involved in the band
I guess DW's estate and DD&B Music Publishing share the rights - we're actually trying to clear that up. Not that it's a problem or issue, we just want to figure it out.
Emdeeh Profile 13:59:30
Earliest CW lead I know of was a duo with David Marks on "Summertime Blues." And then there's "Pom Pom Playgirl."
Billy you are filling a major gap in their history
I was always just a little intimidated singing with CW because he was SO GO= OD - but he never made me feel uncomfortable - it was always just my own insecurities ...
Thanks so much Billy for doing this for us all! Fantastic film, and we'll be looking for more from you....congrats!!!
But first recorded Beach Boys lead vocal by Carl was Girl Don't Tell me
I am working with Warner Chappell on the DW / DD&B issue (in the friendliest of ways)
Emdeeh Profile 14:01:41
EPN, Carl had at least 3-4 previous to GDTM, depending on how you count the double lead with DM.
Susan Profile 14:01:42
No, I think first recorded lead was, as Emdeeh said, “Summertime Blues.”
Billy what we enjoy about you is your accessibility and graciousness to come here and talk openly about your time with the Beach Boys and your current, = past and future projects!
Always love seeing/hearing more Dennis...thanks for that!!
I'm counting FULL lead vocal.
Gotta' go soon so shall we wrap things up in a few minutes or so ?= p>
"One More Night Alone"… great song
It's fun for me too, EPN
Susan Profile 14:03:05
So, Billy - the Carl piece, the DW/DDB work...anything else in the hopper r= ight now?
This chat is a pure delight. I'm honored to be able to chat with you Billy. It's a big thrill
An honor Billy.....
Emdeeh Profile 14:03:42
EPN, three before GDTM -- "Pom Pom Playgirl," two verses of "Louie, Louie," and "All Dressed for School."
Thx DB - what HUGE HONOR to have CW sing it - OMG - when I heard it for the first time, the top of my head almost came off (I was wearing headsets) ...=
Andrew Profile 14:03:59
I hope you can do these chats more often and convince other's from the band= to do this...let them know we don't bite ;)
Emdeeh Profile 14:04:43
Billy, I am so impressed with the growth you show in your video work, from project to project.
none of them know how to type ---- KIDDING !@#$%^
Thanks to Susan for hosting this....Kudos babe!
Susan Profile 14:04:55
Thank you all for coming along - and thank you, Billy, for making yourself available. Congrats on this very successful project!
LOL @ Billy!!
Rand Richard Profile 14:05:21
OMNA should have been the single from “Youngblood”!
thx Emdeeh - it's really a learning process for me too. I'm *supposed* to g= et better, right ?
Billy you've given so much today and we appreciate it!!
Look for a q&a in the next ESQ with Billy and Ed Roach, plus extra cool= pix from that 1974 tour from Ed. Andrew Doe will be reviewing the DVD.
esq is your mag available anywhere other than mail order now? I used to get= it at Tower Records years ago
Rand Richard Profile 14:06:57
THANK YOU BILLY... the pleasure has been ours!
Yes, thanks to Susan too!
Thanks Billy and Susan...very cool!
Emdeeh Profile 14:07:19
Looking forward to it, esq! Thanks to Susan and Billy for this chat session= .
Susan Profile 14:07:21
And to Andrew - he really runs this place. I just post info and ask a few questions!
Billy… I'm resonating ;-)
Andrew you're "da man!" ;)
Au revoir, auf viedersehen, adios, mabuhay, takk, salamat - I'm outa' here = !!!
jukka Profile 14:07:45
A big thank you Bill, I very much look forward to seeing the film!= p>
Emdeeh Profile 14:08:02
Yes, and thanks to our gracious host, Andrew!
Lee Roy Profile 14:08:06
Will keep up the chat about the DVD on the boards...making sure all fans kn= ow!!
Emdeeh Profile 14:08:21
Thanks Susan and Andrew!
Rand Richard Profile 14:08:32
IT is really cool!
Susan Profile 14:08:52
I have a lot on my plate at the moment, but I will try to get to the transc= ript soon. Thanks again, everyone - this was fun!
Use this link to subscribe to ESQ: http://esquarter= ly.com/order.html
Rand Richard Profile 14:09:48
jukka Profile 14:10:33
And thanks to Andy & Susie babe, hopefully.
Andrew Profile 14:10:53
Everyone, be sure to purchase Billy's DVD, worth every minute
Susan Profile 14:14:55
My pleasure, folks. Have a good day.
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